“Talent” Books debunked: Nature and Nurture are both needed.
What happens when Journalists tackle science?
A number of books have appeared recently in the USA and the UK purporting to explain the development of talent and excellence in the sporting and business environments. A common feature of these books is that they are written by journalists,who attempt to deal with complex scientific concepts.
Four of the most popular are: “Talent is Over-rated” by Geoff Colvin (Nicholas Brearley2008); “The Talent Code” by Daniel Coyle (Random House Books 2009); “Outliers” by Malcolm Gladwell (Little Brown & Co 2008) and “Bounce” by Matthew Syed (Harper Perennial 2010).
The common message of these books is that to achieve excellence in a chosen field, all that is needed is hard work and the correct – so-called “deliberate”- type of practice . The books all suggest that talent is not innate.
Through a basic misunderstanding of science, all four books re-open the false dichotomy of the nature versus nurture debate. The authors present stories in order to support their cases but repeatedly confuse correlation with causation.
The books’ messages appeal simultaneously to two opposing ideals: one of the largely American free-market right, who profess that whatever a person’s social and economic circumstances, he or she can get to the top in society through hard work; the other, the liberal left tradition that all individuals are born equal with a “blank slate” that is then molded by society (the environment). One review of Bounce describes it as “banalities for egalitarians” with good reason.
Ordinarily, the topics contained in popular literature would be largely of no concern to the coaching and sports science fraternities, but this is different. These books are increasingly described in reviews as if they were scientific masterpieces on sporting performance and talent development.
First, the general message that talent is not innate, “not in the genes”, “not genetic”.
All the authors suggest that those they perceive as being on the “nature” side of the debate believe that there are “genes for sport” and that a person is born with this immutable advantage. Nothing could be further from the truth; none of the geneticists quoted in their books believes this to be true and to suggest otherwise is the most simplistic form of reductionism
But I am of course not suggesting that small genetic units work in isolation from each other, any more than a chemist thinks that atoms do. ((Dawkins R. The Extended Phenotype Oxford 1982 p 113)
The authors also variously describe DNA as being a “blueprint”, but geneticists don’t believes this to be the case (The blueprint myth is dealt with adequately by Dawkins in The Greatest Show on Earth, chapter 8).
There are approximately 30,000 genes in the human genome. These genes interact with each other and both the cellular and external environment from conception to death. This process is very fluid and some genes switch on or off other genes, depending upon certain environmental conditions; we are certainly not born with a blueprint that remains fixed for the rest of our lives.
There are, however, relationships between certain genes and many human conditions, including certain diseases ; I.Q.; grip strength; VO2max, willingness to train. Some of these can be related to single genes and others not as yet identified but whose heritability is verified through twin studies. To deny this as the authors do, is to deny science in the same way that creationists deny evolution or homeopaths deny chemistry.
What is also very damaging is that genetic mapping is only in its infancy having previously concerned itself with what is known as single nucleotide polymorphisms which is a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack, whereas now we are entering the start of “genome wide mapping” which will aim to identify correlations and possible causes across a whole range of human expressions.
Adopting the “not in our genes” stance within sport would retard scientific advancement in the areas of talent identification, development and injury prevention.
The books themselves contain errors:
Here is what Professor Steven Pinker says about Gladwell’s “Outliers”:
The reasoning in “Outliers,” which consists of cherry-picked anecdotes, post-hoc sophistry and false dichotomies, had me gnawing on my Kindle.
Gladwell frequently holds forth about statistics and psychology, and his lack of technical grounding in these subjects can be jarring. He provides misleading definitions of “homology,” “sagittal plane” and “power law” and quotes an expert speaking about an “igon value” (that’s eigen value, a basic concept in linear algebra). In the spirit of Gladwell, who likes to give portentous names to his aperçus, I will call this the Igon Value Problem: when a writer’s education on a topic consists in interviewing an expert, he is apt to offer generalizations that are banal, obtuse or flat wrong.
The common thread in Gladwell’s writing is a kind of populism, which seeks to undermine the ideals of talent, intelligence and analytical prowess in favor of luck, opportunity, experience and intuition. Unfortunately he wildly overstates his empirical case. It is simply not true that a quarterback’s rank in the draft is uncorrelated with his success in the pros, that cognitive skills don’t predict a teacher’s effectiveness, that intelligence scores are poorly related to job performance or (the major claim in “Outliers”) that above a minimum I.Q. of 120, higher intelligence does not bring greater intellectual achievements.
(Gladwell responded in the New York Times (SW) and the stats dept of the NFL intervened – and sided with Pinker)
“Talent is Over-rated” is the least reductionist and dogmatic of the books, and on p 81 the author says:
…but practice proponents do not dispute the possibilities that genes could play a role in a person’s willingness to put himself through the extremely rigorous demands..
In chapter 11 he refers to:
an intrinsic drive working alongside extrinsic forces and practice (i.e. nature and nuture).
He also admits on p196 that many things “remain a mystery”,but he still makes many basic scientific errors e.g.
Since talent is by definition innate, there should be a gene for it… scientists could yet find the piano playing gene or investing gene or accounting gene…..
….genetic changes which take thousands of years.
Genetic changes do not take thousands of years; they happen every generation. This is discussed in Dawkin’s “Greatest Show on Earth”
When talking about mainly sporting potential, Colvin states:
..clear evidence that such non-physical (by this he means “anthropometric” SW) constraints exist has not been found so far …
This simply is not true, since there is evidence for example of differences in inherited VO2 max potential.
They pick an isolated paper and printing its findings as fact.
Colvin refers to a paper “A day at the races” from 1986 and treats the results as fact. This paper was criticised and the results dismissed the following year in the same journal and again by different authors in the same journal in 1988.
He later states:
but it’s important to note that advocates of the deliberate practice framework have never excluded the possibility of a genetic role in high performance. Their stance has been that they have not seen the evidence supporting it.
As Matt Ridley says about personality:
indeed, given that twin studies could find almost no effect of shared environment on personality, the genetic hypothesis should actually be the null hypothesis; the burden of proof was on nurture. If a socialization study did not control for genes, it proved nothing at all. Yet socialization researchers went on year after year publishing these correlations without even paying lip-service to the alternative genetic theory.
The Talent Code
The book is largely about myelinationation i.e. the laying down of myelin (white matter) in the neural pathway via extended practice. What is not mentioned is that this process is highly heritable.
The author describes the birth order of 100-metre world record holders and attributes success to chasing siblings, which myelinated their sprinting neurons. At least one of the men in the list did not grow up with his siblings and another’s birth order is simply wrong.
The Spartak tennis club in Russia that he writes about screens kids at 5yearsold and they continue to screen them and remove them from the program at every stage if they are not up to par. Any population that starts pre-screened cannot purport to demonstratet hat everybody and anybody can become excellence.
For the last century and a half, we’ve understood talent through a Darwin inspired model of genes and environment….Since Darwin the traditional way of thinking about talent has gone something like this: genes…..
This shows complete ignorance of the facts, since Darwin knew nothing of genes.
Nature/nuture has been a terrifically popular model because it’s clear and dramatic..
Iit was to philosophers in a previous era but this model is no longer used. This is followed by a number of pages describing the flawed “blueprint” as the correct model of the human genome. Throughout chapter 2 and 3 the impression is given that genes are static entities (following the “blueprint”):
…their genes do not change, as they grow older.
But this definition is far too simple, as many genes are turned on and off during a person’s lifetime in response to both environmental changes and the action of other genes.
Bounce
Bounce contains factual inaccuracies e.g. the claim on p242 that sickle cell anaemia does not just affect “black” people is plain wrong (see S. Jones, “Language of the Genes” p219-220). The author suggests that geneticists Yannis Pitsiladis and Daniel MacArthur are of the opinion that genes have no role to play in athletic talent development when what their research papers reveal is the opposite. On page 59, he writes:
there is no evidence at the moment for differences in innate specific capacities for mathematics.
There are a number of published papers showing this statement to be wrong. The same is true of the genetic component in children’s reading, IQ, VO2 max, response of muscles to training, inclination to train, response to endurance training and so on. This is part of Syed’s denial of genetic influences against all the available and growing body of evidence.
(For Simon Worsnop’s detailed critique of Bounce, see here)
For a comprehensive overview of the false dichotomy between nature and nurture, see Matt Ridley’s “Nature via Nuture” (Harper Perennial 2004)
For an accessible book on evolution and genetics, see Richard Dawkins’ “Greatest Show On Earth” (Bantam Press; First U.K. Edition edition (3 Sep 2009)
For an accessible book on genetics, see Steve Jones “Language of the Genes” (Flamingo; New Ed edition (14 Mar 1994)
For a review paper, see Keith Davids and Joseph Baker’s “Genes, Environment and Sport Performance – Why the Nature-Nuture Dualism is no Longer Relevant” Sports Medicine 2007:37 (11)
For a magazine article, read David Epstein’s “Sports Genes”, Sports Illustrated May 2010
I am indebted to Yannis Pitsiladis for his review of my original draft critique of Bounce.
Simon Worsnop

From Simon Worsnop.
1. At no point do I dismiss the relative age effect which is backed by numerous studies across sports
2. I do not dismiss Gladwell and Syed because of their lack of non-academic credentials, in fact Syed studied PPE at Oxford. What I do take issue with is their belief that champions are created solely by practice; this view being taken from the extreme behaviourist position of Ericsson. I also take issue with the FACTUAL INACCURACIES throughout their work.
3. If you are unwilling to believe my critique of this position then I suggest you read Ross Tucker’s articles on genetics and the 10,000 hour “rule” at http://www.sportsscientists.com or read the full critique of Malcolm Gladwell’s work by Professor Steven Pinker.
4. For SCIENTIFIC information on these issues please see the following
Sports Medicine:
1 April 2010 – Volume 40 – Issue 4 – pp 271-283
Current Opinion
Expert Performance in Sport and the Dynamics of Talent Development
Phillips, Elissa1 2 3; Davids, Keith2; Renshaw, Ian2; Portus, Marc3
Sports Medicine:
1 October 2011 – Volume 41 – Issue 10 – pp 845-859
Review Articles
Genetic Influences in Sport and Physical Performance
Puthucheary, Zudin1; Skipworth, James R.A.1; Rawal, Jai1; Loosemore, Mike2; Van Someren, Ken2; Montgomery, Hugh E.1
Sports Med 2007;
37 (11): 961-980
Genes, Environment and
Sport Performance
Why the Nature-Nurture Dualism is no Longer Relevant
Keith Davids1 and Joseph Baker2
1 School of Human Movement Studies, Queensland University of Technology, Kelvin Grove,
Queensland, Australia
2 School of Kinesiology and Health Science, York University, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
For a more popular article see David Epstein Sports Genes in Sports Illustrated May 17 2010
Gladwell, Syed etc are talking about complex tasks. Running is not a complex task. It is purely physical in the way sports that combine many elements are not.
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We need to know who is failing to understand the evidence so we can explain it more clearly.
This article seems to miss the point being made by Gladwell, Syed et al that places a great emphasis on birth date in relation to achievement. If Mr Worsnop is prepared to dismiss those authors for their non-academic credentials, he should perhaps engage with Charles Handy, whose findings are widely respected across the academic and professinal communities. I’m afraid that the attack mounted here tries to support itself with less factual data than those it seek to challenge. You have missed the point entirely, I worry for you.
Very interesting article. Having read 2 of these books, bounce and talent code what i took away from them was that the word “talent” is hugely abused and overused in the sporting context to the point that I try to avoid using it or with great care. For instance in racket sport describing a player as a ” talented player” has come to mean the player is : naturally gifted, plays extravagant shots, highly technical/ tactical, not hard working , quick learner, relaxed under presure, fast.
Talented seldom means their genetic potential for grip strength, speed , vo2max or any other measurable geneticly influenced tested predictors of that sports performers are at the top end of the spectrum.
As such using the word “talented” in the strict sense that a sports scientist might is almost impossible. In a sport such as sprinting which is a closed time trial with a very measurable “talent” it may be that talent is in indeed easy to identify and measure the word may have a meaning. In tennis, badminton where even at world level there are a range of styles, techniques, body types, fitness levels, the word has been misused far too much.
Thanks Simon for this. I think it is easier for busy Coaches to read books like this than look at original journals or to analyse what is behind the data.
We are doing another blog this week on interpreting research too.
Then another one soon on Evidence based bias in physiotherapy.
It is important to not see things at face value.
worrying that some of these Authors are now wheeled out as “experts” on TV programmes.
Hi David,
thanks for your comments. The point of Simon’s piece is that spurious research claims or anecdotal evidence from 1 or 2 athletes is then extrapolated to make a book.
See today’s blog on stats in sports science.
Usain Bolt would not be Olympic Champion without training hard. It doesn’t matter how hard I train, I won’t run sub 11 seconds 100 metres.
Have to confess to being a bit disappointed to read the above. Does this mean everything that Gladwell & Syed (the only ones I’ve read) say is wrong? Is there no truth at all in the message that hard work can lead to mastery? What about Dweck’s work on Mindsets? Her academic credentials are surely not in doubt? And her research seems to support these ideas about talent. Would be very interested in your opinion on this.
David Didau
Hi,
could the author of the last post leave their name please? Otherwise I will remove. We are quite happy to engage in debate, but only with people who identify themselves.
Otherwise it could descend into an internet forum type slanging match.
I was curious if you ever considered changing the page layout of your blog?
Its very well written; I love what youve got to
say. But maybe you could a little more in the way of content
so people could connect with it better. Youve got an awful lot of text for only having one or two pictures.
Maybe you could space it out better?